Dryrobe ambassadors, longboard title-contender and shaper of Skindog Surfboards Ben Skinner, and his son, QS campaigner, up-and-coming surfer, and 2023's Rip Curl Grom Search International Champion Lukas Skinner join us on the podcast. Calling in from France and fresh from Lukas' win at the Caraïbos Surf de Nuit Anglet presented by Rip Curl, the father and son surfing team discuss Lukas' first proper year on the QS, their mentality towards his long road to qualification, and him being the first British male to win a Boardmasters event. Ben discusses shaping surfboards for himself and for Lukas with Skindog Surfboards, the support system they have around them, and Lukas making it a goal to get Skindog Surfboards on the Vissla CT Shaper Rankings. They rewind the clock on their upbringing, Ben being born in the island of Jersey, being a high-performing shortboarder at a young age, before switching to longboarding and winning every category in every major British longboard event by age 18. After Ben reveals how he used to keep warm in between sessions in the water by jumping into a warm bucket of water, they share how game changing it is having dryrobe as a sponsor, especially living in an area that can get so cold. Ben and Lukas look ahead to the Abu Dhabi Longboard Classic Presented By Modon, Ben's excitement to compete in Abu Dhabi, and the unique challenges of competing in a wave pool. Lukas shares his excitement to compete in the Rip Curl Pro Anglet while in France and competing in his last pro Junior of the year. They wrap up the podcast by answering listener questions, explain why jam is always first on an English scone, and take turns quick-answering the Lightning Round.